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Well here we are again

December 17th, 2025 at 11:14 pm

Subtitle: You paid how much for this? (Part Deux)

I don't know... am I overly sensitive to this much spending?  Or is it the new normal?  After writing about my cousin I thought that would be the end of crazy expensive decisions I would be passing by.  I mean I am back home, basically only seeing people at the gym, how could that happen again?  But it (sorta) did.

So wassup?  Well this week I visited an old co-worker friend from my newly departed job.  Really the only friend I had there.  (The people were mostly fine - just when most people are foreigners we just had nothing in common to bond over, except this one guy.  Would I have stayed working longer if I had more friends there???  Huh, I wonder.  Anyway....)  I got him a couple of things when I was in Florida and so I picked a day to go travel and see him at home as he mostly works from home now.

Since I retired he bought a new home.  I saw his old home a number of times, but never this place.  He got it since I retired and its much further away.  So I get there at his "lunch break" and we chat, though mostly it was him proudly showing off his new home.  And good for him.  Really nice, maybe 10-15 years old, or less (I forget the year actually).  And sometime near the end of the visit he tells me - I thought - he got it for $490,000.  Really I wasn't surprised, housing is expensive and he is a good hour drive outside of D.C., and housing is certainly more expensive as you move closer in.  Let's just say my house 20 minutes out is a much lesser house than his new place, and would sell for much much more (which is crazy).  So I said foolishly(?) "with the money from selling your townhome, that shouldn't be too much you have left to pay."   Man oh man, I gotta learn.  The response was "No the $490,000 is the mortgage.  The price of the house was $690,000."  Ugh.  He moved way out from D.C. for a "cheaper" home.  That's cheaper?

I'm just... oh man.  I got it, I am not in the market for a house, and prices have gotten cuckoo again like 2007-8 so yeah, this is not unbelievable.  And he wanted a better house than his old (Paid off!) townhome.  And houses often go up in price, so there's that. 

But here's the rub.  The guy isn't much younger than me, I think about 60 y.o.   Only two kids and both have long since moved out.  He went from a 3 BD townhouse to a 4 BD house filled with top line amenities galore.  Maybe not a McMansion, but darn close.  I know what he earns (sorta) as we had similar salaries when I left and while raises happened after I left (* grumble grumble *) he can be making at most 20% more than I did.  His wife, while salaried, is nothing amazing salarywise as its a school job.  Getting that big of a mortgage may be ok at 30 - 45 y.o especially with kids, but at 60 and empty nest???  That has to be at least 1/3 of their combined salary, 1/2 of their take home, probably well more.  In theory, he could be in his mid 80s and still have mortgage payments.  I encouraged him to save when I worked with him, so they may have $400,000 saved in retirement money, so its not like he has to worry about going bankrupt.  But still... I mean come on.  I thought people were supposed to downsize when they got older, or at least stay put, but not upsize.  

Am I just mentally not like most people?  I'm sorta losing it I think.  Hopefully there won't be a part three of this series.

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To make this a finance post, as part of the above trip I also took some old Geotrax items to a Facebook buyer that couldn't make it to my place, so I took it along dropping it off with her at her work on my way.  Only $20, but hey they were old yard sale items that I'm sure cost me less, and it is nice to get that stuff outta my house.  

5 Responses to “Well here we are again”

  1. Tabs Says:
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    The very thought of still owing half a million in mortgage in my 60’s would scare the daylights out of me, and you know the interest will seriously pile up over the years too. Well, I’m in my 50’s, but it still scares me.

    The sad unfortunate thing is, this seems … very common in America. Whenever I learn about my friends and co-workers’ finances, all of my friends still either owe mortgage or rent.

    On top of that, the blistering housing prices are not doing anyone any favors either. This is definitely not a good time to be buying houses.

  2. LivingAlmostLarge Says:
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    Maybe the plan is to live, enjoy while working then downsize and move somewhere free. Trust me I've met people in their 70s/80s with mortgages. I don't get it at all.

  3. PatientSaver Says:
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    No, you are not crazy and it's not just you. Just taking on a $20K loan for a new vehicle, even though I'm halfway thru a 2-yr plan to pay it off quickly, makes me uncomfortable. I hope he enjoys working.

  4. rob62521 Says:
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    I'm with you...that's a huge mortgage at his stage in life and seriously, who needs it? The bigger one's space, the more stuff is bought to fill said space. No thanks!

  5. Dido Says:
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    In my experience most clients I work with who downsize, size down in terms of the physical size of the property but spend at least as much if not more than they paid for their original primary residence.

    We never educated our generation for the retirement burdens that we bear, which is a real travesty given that over the past 40 years we moved from a system where many had pensions as well as Social Security to a system relying on 401(k)s and prospective retirees needing to save for themselves.

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